{"id":433,"date":"2012-07-26T10:02:23","date_gmt":"2012-07-26T14:02:23","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blogs.wabash.edu\/littlegiants-bigresults\/?p=433"},"modified":"2025-07-08T19:32:54","modified_gmt":"2025-07-08T19:32:54","slug":"i-wont-hire-people-who-use-poor-grammar-heres-why","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.wabash.edu\/plastics\/2012\/07\/26\/i-wont-hire-people-who-use-poor-grammar-heres-why\/","title":{"rendered":"I Won&#8217;t Hire People Who Use Poor Grammar. Here&#8217;s Why."},"content":{"rendered":"<p>by Kyle Wiens<\/p>\n<p>If you think an apostrophe was one of the 12 disciples of Jesus, you will never work for me. If you think a semicolon is a regular colon with an identity crisis, I will not hire you. If you scatter commas into a sentence with all the discrimination of a shotgun, you might make it to the foyer before we politely escort you from the building.<\/p>\n<div>\n<p>Some might call my approach to grammar extreme, but I prefer Lynne Truss&#8217;s more cuddly phraseology: I am a grammar &#8220;stickler.&#8221; <a href=\"http:\/\/grammarmadeclear.blogspot.com\/2010\/05\/can-i-start-sentence-with-and-yet-or.html\">And<\/a>, like Truss \u2014 <a href=\"http:\/\/www.lynnetruss.com\/pages\/content\/index.asp?PageID=8\">author of <em>Eats, Shoots &amp; Leaves<\/em><\/a> \u2014 I have a &#8220;zero tolerance approach&#8221; to grammar mistakes that make people look stupid.<\/p>\n<p>Now, Truss and I disagree on what it means to have &#8220;zero tolerance.&#8221; She thinks that people who mix up their itses &#8220;deserve to be struck by lightning, hacked up on the spot and buried in an unmarked grave,&#8221; while I just think they deserve to be passed over for a job \u2014 even if they are otherwise qualified for the position.<\/p>\n<p>Everyone who applies for a position at either of my companies, iFixit or Dozuki, takes a mandatory grammar test. Extenuating circumstances aside (dyslexia, English language learners, etc.), if job hopefuls can&#8217;t distinguish between &#8220;to&#8221; and &#8220;too,&#8221; their applications go into the bin.<\/p>\n<p>Of course, we write for a living. iFixit.com is <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ifixit.com\/\">the world&#8217;s largest online repair manual<\/a>, and Dozuki helps companies write their own <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dozuki.com\/\">technical documentation<\/a>, like <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dozuki.com\/Sales\/Industry\/work-instructions\">paperless work instructions<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dozuki.com\/Sales\/Industry\/product-support\">step-by-step user manuals<\/a>. So, it makes sense that we&#8217;ve made a preemptive strike against groan-worthy grammar errors.<\/p>\n<p>But grammar is relevant for all companies. Yes, language is constantly changing, but that doesn&#8217;t make grammar unimportant. Good grammar is credibility, especially on the internet. In blog posts, on Facebook statuses, in e-mails, and on company websites, your words are all you have. They are a projection of you in your physical absence. And, for better or worse, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.lamebook.com\/tip-top-type-14\/ttt1-7\/\">people judge you if you can&#8217;t tell the difference between their, there, and they&#8217;re.<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Good grammar makes good business sense \u2014 and not just when it comes to hiring writers. Writing isn&#8217;t in the official job description of most people in our office. Still, we give our grammar test to everybody, including our salespeople, our operations staff, and our programmers.<\/p>\n<p>On the face of it, my zero tolerance approach to grammar errors might seem a little unfair. After all, grammar has nothing to do with job performance, or creativity, or intelligence, right?<\/p>\n<p>Wrong. If it takes someone more than 20 years to notice how <a href=\"http:\/\/news.bbc.co.uk\/2\/hi\/uk_news\/150458.stm\">to properly use &#8220;it&#8217;s,&#8221;<\/a> then that&#8217;s not a learning curve I&#8217;m comfortable <a href=\"http:\/\/oxforddictionaries.com\/words\/ending-sentences-with-prepositions\">with<\/a>. So, even in this hyper-competitive market, I will pass on a great programmer who cannot write.<\/p>\n<p>Grammar signifies more than just a person&#8217;s ability to remember high school English. I&#8217;ve found that people who make fewer mistakes on a grammar test also make fewer mistakes when they are doing something completely unrelated to writing \u2014 like stocking shelves or labeling parts.<\/p>\n<p>In the same vein, programmers who pay attention to how they construct written language also tend to pay a lot more attention to how they code. You see, at its core, code is prose. Great programmers are more than just code monkeys; according to Stanford programming legend Donald Knuth they are <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Selected-Computer-Science-Language-Information\/dp\/1881526917?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=thstsst-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957\">&#8220;essayists who work with traditional aesthetic and literary forms.&#8221;<\/a> The point: programming should be easily understood by real human beings \u2014 not just computers.<\/p>\n<p>And just like good writing and good grammar, when it comes to programming, the devil&#8217;s in the details. In fact, when it comes to my whole business, details are everything.<\/p>\n<p>I hire people who care about those details. Applicants who don&#8217;t think writing is important are likely to think lots of other (important) things also aren&#8217;t important. And I guarantee that even if other companies aren&#8217;t issuing grammar tests, they pay attention to <a href=\"http:\/\/www.cbsnews.com\/8301-505125_162-57420746\/why-sloppiness-is-killing-your-job-search\/?tag=cbsnewsMainColumnArea\">sloppy mistakes on r\u00e9sum\u00e9s.<\/a> After all, sloppy is as sloppy does.<\/p>\n<p>That&#8217;s why I grammar test people who walk in the door looking for a job. Grammar is my litmus test. All applicants say they&#8217;re detail-oriented; I just make my employees prove it.<\/p>\n<p><strong>[[Editors&#8217; note: If you&#8217;re interested in improving your writing skills, please consider our <a href=\"http:\/\/hbr.org\/product\/guide-to-better-business-writing-2nd-edition\/an\/10919-PDF-ENG?Ntt=guide%2520to%2520better%2520business%2520writing\">Guide to Better Business Writing<\/a> book]]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Join us for a Twitter chat about this blog post on Thursday, July 26 at 1pm ET. Follow @HBRexchange and #HBRchat. Details <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/notes\/harvard-business-review\/hbrchat-topic-july-26-would-you-hire-someone-who-used-poor-grammar\/10151052724213664\">here<\/a>.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<div><!-- Post Footer Categories and More --><\/p>\n<div>\n<div>More blog posts by <a href=\"http:\/\/hbr.org\/search\/Kyle%20Wiens\">Kyle Wiens<\/a><\/div>\n<div><!-- Begin: Entry Tags Module -->\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 \u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 \u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 \u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 More on: <a href=\"http:\/\/hbr.org\/search\/business%20writing\">Business writing<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/hbr.org\/search\/communication\">Communication<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/hbr.org\/search\/personal%20effectiveness\">Personal effectiveness<\/a><!-- End: Entry Tags Module --><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<div><a href=\"http:\/\/hbr.org\/search\/Kyle Wiens\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"\/mt-static\/support\/assets_c\/userpics\/userpic-1622-100x100.png\" alt=\"Kyle Wiens\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<div>\n<h3><a href=\"http:\/\/hbr.org\/search\/Kyle Wiens\">Kyle Wiens<\/a><\/h3>\n<p>Kyle Wiens is CEO of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ifixit.com\">iFixit,<\/a> the largest online repair community, as well as founder of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dozuki.com\">Dozuki,<\/a> a software company dedicated to helping manufacturers publish amazing documentation.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>by Kyle Wiens If you think an apostrophe was one of the 12 disciples of Jesus, you will never work for me. 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